But I do love Prime, lol. Wow!!! My prayer is for the onset of reality which may involve a bit of providential chaos to shift attention to the Right Source so people whove been magnetically attached to that movement will find eventual freedom as they lose the legalistic, mechanistic model that always squeezes humanity and compassion and grace right out of anyone bound by its constrictions. Those patriarchal idiots and their wives do not have enough emotional intelligence in their bodies to understand such a nuance. Perhaps this kind of pushback is what caused Doug Wilson to post his 'Season of Meditation'. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+1&version=NASB. And some of the key destructive features in the Erudite faction are: an amoral base where knowledge is valued regardless of how it is obtained, contempt, dehumanization, no true value on all human life (sort of people-as-experiments), etc. I dont see anything wrong with sweet per se, but in all candor, it rankles my strong-willed, masters degree, yankee wife some when shes referred to by some sales clerk 20 years her junior as sweetie. Its a potentially powerful storyline to demonstrate how sociopathology plays out in greater or lesser degree through a wide range of value structures, even some that seem nice and cuddly like Amity where a stance of neutrality can be self-protective and lack conscience or compassion. Nothing G sub-quality about that. R.C. ), http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blbordercanada.htm. So, Mr. Wilson provides a heroic-seeming warrior figure to follow, a sort of verbal counterpart to Mark Driscolls mixed martial arts physical combatant. My aim was to try to get you to take offense at how I worded this comment and get you to perhaps feel the impact of some of this. Perhaps someday providential trauma will shake them from their happy apathy and their seemingly lack of empathy for those like Lourdes Torres-Manteufel who were groomed for years to serve an undeserving human master and to override any cognitive dissonance or conflicted emotions about so doing. ), @ Patrice: Genuine genius and wisdom require a blend of brain/heart. So when you do comment do you have any idea how big a piece of the survivalist pie Rawles has? I, and I believe most people on this blog, are inclined to believe the Plaintiff. My Comment was Deleted PS IMHO Old Spice stinks no offense to anyone who enjoys the aroma. And of course it almost always ends with sexual misconduct which comes quite naturally to those who choose to worship the creature (themselves) over the creator. But when compared to, say, Gary North, James Dobson, John Piper, Al Mohlerwell, at least theres something going on in Doug W. Maybe thats it. Not complicated at all. So this is a rare type of malignant leader. This isnt a dispute. I have NEVER met anyone here with such reprehensible views!! Like Driscoll and his clumsy Neuro-linguistic programming juju, language for him is just a tool to snow people. Thought that was resolved with the Nicene Creed? I doubt that men talk like that about women using the word in that way. Honestly, to say that people man, woman, child should dress appropriately ought to be enough. He invented Muff Potter didnt he? Second, this anti-freedom gridlock bounded choice and the psychology of totalism, glued together with the limiting realities of a total institution creates slaves to the system. This is a bot message. Theyve been left with volition, but not bolstered by any real understanding of choice, and therefore not with valid consent. Despite his best efforts, in my view, Doug is tenuously perched on the third (or lower) tier of Neo-Calvinism big hitters. (*spit*). He has an ideology to protect plain and simple. It is correct that typically adults cannot recover money damages if they were participants in the conduct complained of and if they were competent. Maybe we can discuss all the other concoctions in your article over coffee sometime. This is also why I dont like seeing this thing referred to as an affair, or as adultery. I probably have mis-interpreted my past experiences as being exactly this particular bizarre interpretation of 2nd coming of Jesus. And how lovely that its a pca pastor saying sohe is part of the real thing. Shortly after news broke about the legal action against Doug Phillips, et al, by his alleged victim, Doug Wilson chimed in with a post entitled Vision Forum and Confessing Your Virtues. Wilson has a plan, he lusts incessantly for attention and control, and, I have come to fully believe after years of painful experiment and research, he has the full capacity to rape and maim any sentient organism that might get in his way. "[2], On November 17, 2014, Phillips was excommunicated from Boerne Christian Assembly, the church that he founded. Resides in Rowlett, TX. ! Late Victorian terminology. Doug did not hear them. ok, I just dissociated when I proofread I forgot what I meant here, maybe something along the lines of lose their basic recall abilities. Lets put them in our prayers. God gave her the long hair maybe as a sign of His power/authority on her head (whcih is she ought to have as the female adam.) a heads-up to the angels that, though somewhat different in form and created after Adam, what goes for Adam goes for her too. And part of that life includes her marriage to writer, director, and producer Marc Silverstein (via CheatSheet ). He can follow ideas through, but drops them when he gets bored. was news of the wedding. May I point out that Doug Wilson is beloved by The GospelCoalition crowd. And, as predicted, all attention went to her. Kind of like bless his heart its frequently said in complete well-meaning sincerity.). Bringing it all back to the lawsuit filed by Lourdes Torres-Manteufel, assuming the timeline put together with the help of insiders is accurate, Doug Phillips was FIRST confronted about the appearance of improprieties with the then Ms. Torres in 2008, a full five years before he confessed to an improper relationship. I believe you are approaching this with balance, and I can appreciate that. garb and playing their parts with aplomb. I was enthralled with your whole comment. but that conveniently absolves the rapist and others of responsibility. Rosmary, you rock. As one who has kept tabs on the cult leader, Doug Wilson, for close to two decades now, the TWW community should be aware that Rosmary Huskey is one of the true HEROES of the Moscow, Idaho community. You say that you were only going at most 30.5 mph and not 45 mph. Ive tried to say the same thing and was accused of not having sympathy for the victim, which no one can prove she was at this point. When will it end as conservative become radical becomes heretical? Sadly, these are only the ones that are scandals. For-profits are often used for unrelated business income that would not jeopardize the tax-exempt status of a nonprofit, but it can cause perception issues. I have to push back on this one, though. But once again, bringing it back to Mr. Wilson as apparently is the nature of how all things must (hopefully) eventually go, at least in his mini-cosmos of Moscow I have two concluding thoughts. I would contend that Doug Wilsons apparent penchants toward overvaluing logical consistency and an inerrant-theology legalism find their base more in dualistic Western philosophy than in a holistic Hebraic worldview. And, thankfully, the backlash to Wilson has been vehement and loud and sustained enough, particularly from his close neighbors in his small town who actually know enough about him, to all but neuter this old bull. Furthermore . I told (the person in charge) that you would not mind at all coming in an hour early to turn up the thermostat. Typical sentence behind the sweet persons back, one adult female to another. but they are still married. For another, a boyfriend doesnt ejaculate onto his girlfriend while she cries and asks him to stop. Wilson and Driscoll can pack a room, they are indeed charismatic within a narrow subculture, but the type of people they attract are the exceptions that prove the rule. I dont know to what extent this is entrenched in the Patriarchal Homeschooling Movement(TM). Yet, it would be wise for us to reserve ulitmate judgment. This will hurt, but it will not hurt nearly as much as if I have to kick you in your *** while your head is still firmly implanted. In this case I see two people who have their heads firmly implanted and are now being kicked while in that condition. I completely agree with you, Hester. My comment was in no-wise meant to single you out. Bezos idea for delivery drones is a bit too weird for the US My sympathies to you. Ex Cathedra. Really enjoyed what she had to say. In fact, it makes our job of helpinghomeschool kids andalumnithat much harder. Even though Im not Quaker. Having learned what Ive now learned about Wilson, his views on slavery and the like, I now regard him the same way I would regard a Neo-Nazi or other form of white supremacist. Wilson is some form of sociopath, for sure, but he does at least feel strongly and intensely over the moral virtues of loyalty (to him) and the power and wealth he is able to hand to his covenantal, biological, direct decedents.. I can be pretty direct about it. 3. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: They got married in 2014 and still act as in love as ever. And arent those key elements of the sociopaths character? . During the early 1980s, a Southern Baptist leader said that slavery was no so bad. I think its sad that the state of American evangelicalism has so fallen that anyone would consider DW either a scholar or a wit. Yes, I can see what youre saying about the logic consistency/boredom drop-out thing. I would have expected, but Sr. usually seems much more reasonable than other Neo-Calvinists. Yes! I dont disagree with the premise, and thought it might be interesting. In April of this year she appeared on a local television show with her husband, declaring that, I think God wanted to draw us together and do something much bigger than us or our familys story.) Beall argued there were gross errorsin Farriss accusations, such as: (1) Doug Phillips never taught that women in general should be subject to men in general, Beall says, pointing to the fact that,For about the last 6 years, you and I have sat around the same table for board meetings. As I was doing research on this topic, I came across a blog post written by Geoffrey Botkin's niece, Katie Botkin. Its something that happened and life goes on and you block it out your consciousness until it eventually resurfaces. And, thankfully, the backlash to Wilson has been vehement and loud and sustained enough, particularly from his close neighbors in his small town who actually know enough about him, to all but neuter this old bull. ET. Im from the south as well, and while I am very familiar with the bless his heart phrase and its derogatory connotations, I have never heard sweet used in this way. Yes, thats the one. A comment on Katie Botkins blog: She was invited to a particular professional meeting I planned to go to, and I wrote that groups board and asked them to consider cancelling her presentation because she was so controversial in our community. Prayer Requests Ill follow up the above with a quote from the blog of Michael Metzler, formerly of Wilsons kirk and famously referred to by Wilson as a sucking chest wound.. God knew when He created Eve that salvation from the effects of the Fall was to be through the womans seed.. I agree, having read a bit of his writing Id be more inclined to call him a fraud, a blustering scam artist, a pseudo-wit, neither an intellectual nor theological powerhouse. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. I have no way of knowing. If clarity is central to writing, how good of a communicator (let alone a comedian) can you be when people cant even understand why your jokes are funny? Both men are scoundrels! My prayer for those under the sway of Doug Wilson is that the Holy Spirit does something to shake them up to see that contempt dehumanizes and is sin, contentiousness divides and is sin, and they need to find other role models who manifest the peace of Christ and the grace of God instead of the idolatry of this substitute. Lydia's Corner: Ezekiel 18:1-19:14 Hebrews 9:1-10 Psalm 106:32-48 Proverbs 27:10. She was an adult, and so if his attentions were not entirely unwelcome, she was a player in the vice, not a victim. Before I say what I am about to say, let me make it clear that I have no use for that crowd out in Idaho. I lived in Pullman-Moscow from 1973-1986. One of his board, Don Hart helped protect him from losing his law license and he didnt have any accountability in his church. Kind of like if someone writes me and says, God says people who wear sandals to church have to stand in the back row. And I write back and say, God makes people with sandals stand in the back row. Here is the definition for the word, dia, which is translated as for. These are not charismatic people in the larger sense, they are people that the culture at large and most Christians consider repulsive and uncharismatic. So sorry about all of this stress!! Spare yourselves this disaster. Yeah, there are always people who are secretly enchanted by the sociopath and will use back-handed praise, but it is important to clearly understand ones enemy. When Passionate Housewives Desperate for God was published by Vision Forum, Doug Phillips wrote about Dorothy Patterson's endorsement on his blog (now defunct). The guy doesnt have a clue. Just wanted to mess with u 4 knowing so much about this particular topic. There was one particular speaker who constantly got invited to write articles, speak at forums and conferences. There is more than one approach to this, however. I worry we will see more extreme opinions become doctrine as time goes on, even to the point of discussing the acceptability of slavery or mosaic law. They couldnt care less about justice. And TurboJesus second-coming as a raging psychopath to DESTROY DESTROY DESTROY everything except His Speshul Pets. Googling Doug Phillips + Vision Forum + Homosexuality does bring up the famous Matt Chancey "Art of Manliness" incident. Still going strong 30 years on! As per People, the two exchanged vows in front of 250 loved ones in Albany, Georgia, under an oak tree. Pcapastor has it right, many standing in for Christianity at the moment have nothing to do with it. Despite being married for seven years, the Married at First Sight couple has never shied away from the good, bad and wild parts of their. We at TWW should be honored that she has visited us here. I was responding to what was posted about Doug Wilsons comments. The worst part was having to read his dreck. It's only Doug's history that makes it all seem a bit weird. Wilson isnt laboring for an academic tradition, or the glory of God, or love, or out of empathy for his fellow man. Please comment on this. 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