If you look closely to the left and rear of Charlie's car after she stops there is a set of skid marks already on the pavement from the first time they did this scene. It's a triumphant and bittersweet victory for Maverick, who is forced to let go of his guilt over the death of Goose. 1986 minus 33 means Maverick was born in 1953, which means Duke and his wife last got dirty as early as 1952, which was when the Oriskany was supporting the war in Korea. Viper He should have been already briefed on the rules of engagement and take evasion action at the same time. Instead, he switches to the longer range weapons - Sparrows or Phoenix missiles on the F-14's forward-quarter weapons. On hop 31, the planes clearly take off early in the morning, but once they're off the ground, it's high noon. Plain and simple. Only better and worse. After Iceman's plane is strafed for the second time, Slider says it's OK both engines are running. What I'm about to tell you is classified. The initial close ups of the Migs don't contain such a gun. Before graduating Maverick wears the American flag on his right sleeve, however this is removed and the "Fighter Weapons school" patch has taken the flags original place. When reviewing the telemetry data, Charlie is wearing a gray skirt and a white polo shirt, but when she then chases after Maverick outside the building, she is wearing a black skirt and a white button-up shirt. Maverick He's your typical, no nonsense, high-ranking naval aviator. When Maverick arrives at Top Gun, the subtitles read "Miramar, California". Iceman and Hollywood are confronted by a squadron of six MiGs. However, Top Gun neglects to answer a handful of burning questions. Every F-5 that appears in this movie, however, is standing in as a MiG. However, it's later revealed that his father, Duke Mitchell, died a hero - a subtle alteration of the story which affects a change in Maverick. Maverick and Iceman seem to change planes during the final fight scene. Viper Also, the catapult Maverick supposedly launched from is "stacked" with parked aircraft. Of all the photos the set designers could have chosen for this scene, it seems strange they would choose one of an "enemy" aircraft. Do you think your name will be on that plaque? : In subsequent shots, he's apparently been demoted back to lieutenant junior grade. Viper Completely unpredictable. When he first meets Maverick he is not impressed about him being below the hard deck nor him buzzing the tower which got Air Boss Johnson upset. The RIO or an E-2C controller would be in a better position to state what is happening. The peanut disappears and reappears between shots. However, Maverick throwing Goose's dog tags away is actually far more significant than it may appear. There is no rescue point on the engine nacelle of an F-14. Top Gun's naval flight school might not seem like the perfect place for a deep exploration of personal growth, but it does all hold a deeper meaning. The padlock on Goose's locker is also unlocked. The Carrier Air Traffic Control Center (CATCC) controller is sweating at 4:23. For instance, in the initial carrier scenes, Sundown can be seen briefly as Maverick's RIO. they would argue with a detailer and their new assignment will appear months later. Third, is a Multinational Force and Observers Medal. : The tailhook is only used when landing on a carrier, not on a land-based runway. At 30:01, Maverick's F-14 is very low near the ground which exactly would be the 'hard deck' or below thus in reality, he would have been classified as crashed. This happens at 10:12. Cougar supposedly is trying to outmaneuver the enemy plane. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Stockdale would have been Pete Mitchells and Vipers CAG for the beginning of the bombing campaign against North Vietnam. Twice at 1:36:54 and 1:38:02, the missile shot turns from a AIM-7 Sparrow into a AIM-9 Sidewinder in flight. 2023. See 1:26:50. You can count on that. It is thought that Duke is a reference to former U.S. congressman. Here's whatTop Gun's ending really means. WebViper reveals that he had served with his father. Maverick The large numbers on the front of Navy aircraft are used for rapid identification and are routinely reused when an aircraft is replaced. Viper: You fly jets long enough, something like this happens. In the next shot as he's lifted into the helicopter the glove is rolled up over his sleeve protecting his arm from the spray. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. He sees shades of Duke Mitchell (Maverick's father) in Maverick, and tells him so near the end of the film: VIPER: You're a lot like he [Maverick's father Duke], only better. Yeah. United States Navy At around the 1980s, the F-14A cost at least $38-42 million. Duke is said to have flown dangerously; a trait shared with Maverick. : When Maverick is sitting on his motorcycle watching an F-14 land, the tailhook is in the down position. Maverick I had the shot, there was no danger, so I took it. At top speed, Mav would have arrived in about 10 minutes.. or around 8 minutes after Iceman was shot down. But the reflection on the canopy is clearly Maverick's helmet. There was no danger. In the opening, a full-screen explanation of the Top Gun program says it was created "to "insure" that pilots receive the training" etc. Stockdale was shot down in 1965 and spent the rest of the war as a POW. When Maverick is in the flat spin he is above a rocky, desert area, yet somehow crash lands in the ocean nowhere near any desert terrain. In Hop 19, Maverick abandons his wingman Hollywood to pursue Viper. Thus, Maverick and Iceman are correctly wearing Lieutenant insignia. Several characters like Slider, Wolfman, Sundown and even Goose hold the rank of Lieutenant Junior Grade. The F-14 crews were filmed in a discarded Navy cockpit that was not attached to the rest of the plane. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The bogeys were like fireflies all over the sky line reminded of the coffin-corner SAM scene from Maverick. He does so by pushing the throttles forward which in fact, would increase speed. While Jester praises Maverick's flying, he tells him that he must never leave his wingman. : Top Gun Wiki is a FANDOM Movies Community. Both Iceman and Slider are wearing the TOPGUN patch on their flightsuits as they watch the Maverick/Sundown "We could have had him" confrontation. Charlie remarks to Maverick at it's a gamble with a $30 million plane at 51:43. Viper then reveals then-classified details surrounding Duke's plane being shot down and that Viper witnessed Duke's heroic actions before Duke's F-4 Phantom II was shot down. However, at all times during this encounter, the MiG was flying straight and level. WebViper tells Maverick, "that's not something the State Department tells dependents when the battle occurred over the wrong line on some map," in reference to the death of Maverick's father. Stinger says, "You can tell me about the MiG some other time." F-4 Phantoms never flew off the Oriskany in the Vietnam War. Naval aviatorCommander of TOPGUN When he first meets Maverick he is not impressed about him being below the hard deck nor him buzzing the tower which got Air Boss Johnson upset. At 9:00 when Maverick & Goose are inverted over the MiG, extending their "greetings", the names printed on the F-14 are Seeing his father as a hero as opposed to a loose cannon inspires Maverick to do the same, culminating in his rescue of Goose. You're a lot like he was. Time jumped by at least an hour just to get that silhouette indoor shot. [after the first hop with Jester ends with Maverick shooting down Jester at the hard deck and Maverick doing a fly-by near a tower] When he follows Charlie out to the toilet it has changed to PETE MITCHELL.. During the elevator scene, the position of the hair on Maverick's forehead changes multiple times between shots. Mavericks belief that there was no way his father made a mistake during the combat mission that took his life as most around the Navy believed is confirmed His bike does neither because the bike he is riding is strapped on to a trailer. (The flame outs are actually the engines being normally brought out of afterburner.). Moments later, in the very brief third camera shot after Goose says, "We're going ballistic Mav, go get him," the larger plane (Maverick's F-14) passes through the frame first, followed by Jester's smaller plane. As students at the United States Navy's elite fighter weapons school compete to be best in the class, one daring young pilot learns a few things from a civilian instructor that are not taught in the classroom. You can see while filming this (rear mounted camera), the plane that does the roll comes from a low-level flyby over side of the carrier. Viper Originally thought to have been a deserter, Viper tells Maverick that he in fact saved three other planes in combat before dying himself. He shares some classified information with the young recruit, telling Maverick that his father died a hero. In the first engagement between Maverick and Jester, right after Maverick hits the air brakes and gets behind Jester, Jester goes vertical and Maverick chases. In the training Hops, both Merlin and a blue-helmeted pilot can be seen in Maverick's RIO seat. He then proceeded below the hard deck. They are armed with Aim-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles and fuel tanks. In reality, Iceman's F-14 would have not properly landed or even crash. After the first strafe, they shut down one engine. Let me ask you something. Iceman radios "I need another 20 seconds then I've got him" yet he is flying extremely close to the bandit. When Maverick is riding his motorcycle alongside the runway, after the F-14 takes off and turns to the left the shot changes and shows Maverick riding past lighting standards heading toward the runway as indicated by the strobe lights. The various RIOs such as Goose, Merlin and Slider use the F-14s own radar. : Viper The RIO contacted the canopy as he was being propelled above and away from the stricken aircraft, breaking his leg in the process, though he nearly hit the canopy head first. At the end of the discussion, others lift Maverick up in the air on their shoulders. Once he lands he exits an F-14 with 114 on the nose while Iceman exits an F-14 with 114 on the nose. Cruise, who's now an action star, is reprising his aviator role for a sequel called " Top Gun: Maverick ." On run up to mil power and AB, it's a shore based launch. Viper : Well, that's not something the State Department tells dependents when the battle occurred over the wrong line on some map. All radar surveillance is done by E-2C 'Hawkeye' radar planes. Since all of them already have squadron assignments this means some of them are suddenly and unexpectedly reassigned to a new squadron. Maverick tells her his story about his encounter with the enemy MiG, thus making her interested in him. During the recovery of Goose and Maverick, you can see the safety cable attached to Tom Cruise. Up there, we gotta push it. They fly through the terrain,and at one point Goose even says "Watch the mountain!" So he did do it right. That's our job. Controller says at 1:34:47, ""Maverick's re-engaging, sir." It's only been a few days. This is noticeable above and behind Maverick on the upper left side of the canopy. During the initial flight scenes with the MiG-28's, when Maverick is visible on the screen, Sundown's helmet (orange and white stripes) is reflected on the cockpit canopy. It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one. When Maverick launches as the alert 5 aircraft in the final flight, there are at least three different sequences depicted. During the final dogfight, we several shot of Goose in the co-pilot seat when obviously he is dead and Merlin is Maverick's "RIO". That he died in disgrace That he died heroically That he didnt actually die Q.17 Who winds up winning John McCain was flying off the Oriskany in 1967 when he was shot down. Commander Mike "Viper " Metcalf is a naval aviator and an instructor at TOPGUN. However, upon returning, Iceman elects to do a single engine high speed flyby with Maverick. In reality. : He finds out that Viper flew with his father. A good pilot is compelled to evaluate what's happened, so he can apply what he's learned. Viper mentions that he flew F-4s with Maverick's father in VF-51, aboard the USS Oriskany. However, during most of the engagement you can clearly see that the fighters are flying much closer to the ground than 10,000 feet. American : Given Cougar status, the Landing Signal Operator (LSO) should have waved him off yet that does not occur. Career information We're doing our best to make sure our content is useful, accurate and safe.If by any chance you spot an inappropriate comment while navigating through our website please use this form to let us know, and we'll take care of it shortly. VF-51, the Oriskany. Live missiles would have a yellow band as a warning of the live high explosive warhead. Maverick states his encounter with the Mig-28 is classified at 27:36. At 12:51, Cougar, with PTSD, miraculously lands and somehow switches off his F-14. That is a vague story and Maverick, an a pilot, should have further questioned, how does a pilot save three planes after his jet is hit. VF-51 and the other fighters in Oriskanys air wing flew F-8 Crusaders. This signal is given early in F-14 launch procedures, not right before launch. Iceman suddenly appears next to Wolfman in the locker. Goose shouts, ""Shit, we got a flameout. 1986 minus 33 means Maverick was born in 1953, which means Duke and his wife last got dirty as early as 1952, which was when the Oriskany was supporting the war in Korea. Goose states, ""We're going ballistic, Mav. Viper: My squadron we lost 8 Top Gun's ending sees Maverick overcome his recently developed self-doubt to save his former rival, Iceman. In reality, he would report to the Commander Air Wing, ranked as a Captain. Currently VFA-25 Flies the F/A-18C Hornet. Goose questions Slider, "Slider, thought you wanted to be a pilot, man - what happened?" As a fan of Erotica where my mind can During the final dogfight, Iceman switches to missiles when he engages the MIG, then as he locks onto the MIG he switches to missiles again then fires. | Viper: I was there. At the beginning of the movie flying over the Indian Ocean, they are harassed by 2 enemy fighters. | Maverick argues that, ""We weren't below the hard deck for more than a few seconds. Starting 39:26. | Although the F-5 depicts the fictional Mig-28, it is shown firing a rotary cannon that is only visible in the close up shots with an obscure background. During the "choice of assignments scene", after the final dogfight, the "late" Goose's name is seen on the red locker door. The hard deck on this hop will be 10,000 feet. Status During the final dogfight, Slider tells Iceman that there is a MiG "on your left, 3 o'clock." As the F-14s turn, the wings are swept fully aft. It's a mock dogfight, with none of the pilots actually intending to open fire, but Cougar still lost, which sends him into a Heroic B So D despite being up in the sky and running low on fuel. Goose is depicted as a Lt (jg) and wears the proper insignia: on a white uniform, shoulder boards with one thick gold bar and one thin, and in khakis, a single silver bar (a full lieutenant wears double silver bars). As a result, Maverick and Goose get a special detachment which Cougar and Merlin were formerly assigned to: they are sent to Naval Air Station Miramar in San Diego, California, to participate in the United States Navy Fighter Weapons School, better known as TOPGUN, where the best of the best get to learn to be even better. So he's saying he's crashed and still had the shot which is nonsense. There are several scenes of Maverick walking outdoors without a cap or hat; in the Navy and Marines, this absolutely is not done. : One day as Maverick pays a visit to Viper's house he tells him about knowing his father and the truth about what really happened to him despite the information about the incident being classified. The correct word in this case is "ensure" as in 'to guarantee.'. Charlie is talking nonsensical facts when stating first, "The F-5 doesn't have the thrust-to-weight ratio that the MiG-28 has." No pilot would ever violate the hard deck during training. Their radar signals can be backtracked to their source as well, but all they do is give the enemy a general idea of where the carrier is, and by the time they worked out the exact location, F-14s would be in position to intercept any hostile aircraft. In the very next shot, he has no cigarette, and both of his hands are clasped together just under his knee. Vital information There'd be no disgrace. See 1:39:47. 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