She just reduces him to a puddle of a man. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. Oh my God, he could end up as Its sort of like she had put it to bed and realizes now it could be even realer, and then realizing, Oh. The relationship between Selina Meyer and Gary Walsh has always been hilarious, yes, but it's also what are the words? I think that would be important to her., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: The top vote getter was Jonah, with Dan as the runner-up (I would need to work for someone who has a soul, Minh wrote of the latter). Yet, Catherine seemed happier for it. Yeah. Thats why we have climate deniers, we have anti-vaxxers, and we are seeing what those things wrought. Oh, that sucks! Its been a process of first when her mom dies, little bits about her father. The Murder of Selena occured on March 31, 1995 after Selena was shot to death by Yolanda Saldivar (who was the president of her fan club) Selena's death received international attention and the public reaction to it was compared to those that followed the deaths of John Lennon, Elvis Presley and John F. Kennedy. The production of the convention was large in scale: it was filmed at a real arena in Los Angeles and they dropped a conventions-worth of balloons from the ceiling. Not to compare it to addiction, but he was addicted to Selina and it takes somebody hitting the bottom to wake up, and that was Gary's rock bottom. Im not going to use the K word, which is Kellyanne [Conway]. Not really, he says. The joke of Tom Hankss death bumping news of hers is the ultimate karmic payback and a wonderful, wicked callback to the pilot. He quickly shifted gears into paying tribute to the Oscar-winning actor (four times, possibly winning for the sequel-you-never-saw-coming in Philadelphia 2). Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. On Sundays Veep, Selinas long-suffering aide Gary stopped being polite and started getting really angry at his boss, resulting in a jaw-dropping confrontation that was three years in the making. But I think for Amy, who was all in on Jonah for a variety of reasons some of which were the decisions shed made in her life in the sense of she chose work over possibly a family and then when you make a decision like that, she had to double down with Jonah. He knows all the secrets. We sort of got a little freaked out by what that meant, and Julia was in the middle of trying to get through to his agent, or any of those kinds of things, when all of a sudden, the response came back, and he was delighted and gave a big thumbs up. AmyBrookheimer(Anna Chlumsky) tells viewers that Selina never visited him. TVLINE | I also read it as her being reminded of the lengths to which Garywould go to to protect her, kind of like, Oh, right. Why was it so important that Gary would be doing something so Gary-like he picks a seed out of her teeth as they are having this final conversation? To read what Louis-Dreyfus and Hale thought of Selinas betrayal of Gary, head over here. Kent is certainly hard to read, but again, if you were the right kind of person for a lot of these people, I think you could survive. Julia and Tony said those scenes were difficult to shoot, just knowing the history between the characters and that they as actors were saying goodbye to this onscreen relationship as well, even though Gary didnt realize it. He knows all the skeletons. Quotes like, Thats the least reassuring sentence since Its OK, its just the tip! Ming Nguyen said, She showed a hint of being a good person in [the abortion episode] The Choice in Season 3. MANDEL RESPONDS: I could see that, he says of Mike as an ineffective but well-liked high school teacher. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day, Inside the business of TV with breaking news, expert analysis and showrunner interviews. It's an absolutely ruthless, soulless decision, and one that leaves you in the moment wondering how much she will come to regret that. When none of that came to pass, lets do the General thing early in the year and plan her funeral, and then lets jump ahead to the future and see it became the idea. Gary and Selina were intimate. Gary disposed of a body for her. But the way she talks about the position in the finale is so warped its declawing, its demeaning, its worse than death that she sounds victimized for having to serve in that position, which is the second most powerful personOne of the many reasons we called the final episode Veep is that who is going to be her vice president is such a giant piece of her salvation. "I'm just gonna simply say too easy. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Please. It just was so stunning to hear the language in this giant ballroom at the Four Seasons. Walsh was arrested in July 2020 for overseeing . Garys known her a long time and, as we know, shes not the purest lady. The MCUs tiniest heroes are kicking off its biggest phase yet, setting up the next several years of storytelling. The people she banned are now there. And what were the alts that didnt make it? The most joy Gary ever had was when he would get the right lipstick; when he would get the right coat. With your scenes on Veep, not everything is written on the page and you all try alternate versions. Shes a scientist. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. He wasnt there to make some deal. I compare it to the tinge of remorse she felt while sitting at the desk in the end, when she called Garys name and I wasnt there. Mike says Tom won four Oscars, so was the fourth for Philadelphia 2?You think so? After this [fight], theyre close again. Both Labor Day and May Day, the two worker holidays, grew out of violent clashes between labor and police in the American Midwest.What is known as the Haymarket Riot (or . It dawned that that would be the price, that thats the human sacrifice, and we worked backward from that. So I think later in life he might have seen how ridiculous that was and let himself go a little bit and freed up. And it makes me laugh to no end. And you start to realize shes just never really had a father figure. Early in the season, you gave us a tantalizing and terrifying clue about Labor Day, one in which we learned that it was not a day but a boat, which sends the brain to awful places, along the lines of Natalie Wood or Chappaquiddick. But one cant be surprised by everything horrific and morally bankrupt that she does after seeing her in action like that.Were taking advantage of something that Ive talked a lot about, which is people sometimes say to themselves, Oh, I want Selina to be president. And its always like, Well, no. "People in life that do invest in wounding people, or pride, arrogance'more for me, it's never enough and it's all about me'they will reap isolation and pain and sadness," he notes. That, to me, is the absolute saddest picture of her legacy. I think he has forgiven her. Again, not through emotional words, but just in his support. He seems goofy enough to pull it off, he simply says, I think he just thinks corduroy is not very tasteful.. I mean, its the most vicious thing youve ever seen. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. The train was moving way to fast Im getting deep now but the train was going so fast of every action and behavior that shes ever done that it was inevitable. I dont think we can compete. He got what we were going for at the end there, and was proud to be a part of it, and it just put a huge smile on Julias and my faces. She couldnt even face Gary to do it, thats how much of a coward she was. But its that same street fighter that then continues to do all of those other horrible things. Jonah was going to stall and take too long, and along with the demands, in that stall, Tom James [Hugh Laurie] was going to make his move and swoop in and get the nomination, then win the presidency. How Marvel went big with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. Captured and kidnapped by some sort of terrorist act and put in a room with Sarin gas, like Peter Quinn. His personal pick for a crossover? Among the who's-who . April 19 2015, 7:57 PM PDT. Given that Mike never winds up giving that heartfelt eulogy for Selina, could you finish the job right now?I would personally eulogize her as the most wonderfully complicated character I ever got to write. I think those are two old souls that would really enjoy each others company.. Given Garys history with Selina that breakup, the Labor Day event, the mysterious garbage bags and so much more was this new level of depravity totally unexpected? You took over showrunning duties when Armando left after season 4 and kept up the Emmy-winning tradition. "I'm not going anywhere. Look at how Catherine [Meyer, played by Sarah Sutherland] responded to her mothers death she brought in margaritas! Tragic. Fr nhere Informationen zur Nutzung Ihrer Daten lesen Sie bitte unsere Datenschutzerklrung und Cookie-Richtlinie. This is the main character of a TV show, and you relish in her horribleness. And there have even occasionally been people [who said], Why does she keep falling for it? And their relationship is also pretty screwed up. Oscars Best Picture Winners Best Picture Winners Emmys STARmeter Awards San Diego Comic-Con New York Comic-Con Sundance Film Festival Toronto Int'l Film Festival Awards Central Festival Central All Events In many places, workers toiled for at least 12 hours a day . He placed the lipstick on the coffin and touched the coffin somberly before walking away. My hope is that while we are in this horrific Selina Meyer morass, that down the line there is hope. Thats the interesting flaw of her. and I would also say that it's not easy. But she wouldnt do that. That scarily driven, win-at-all costs side of Selina is a hideous sight to behold, except when it comes to the brutal, satisfying comeuppance of Tom James (Hugh Laurie). Jonah then ascends to the presidency Considering Chung made all the cabinet appointments, there are no new spots for Jonah to offer Selina, except for one newly vacant spot: the vice presidency. I dont know when I will respond.. TVLINE | The argument is diffused when she is reminded of what he did for her on Labor Day. TVLINE | Did you and Julia spend a lot of time working on the scene to get it just right? They bring up that something happened to the point where Gary will never speak of it and it stops Selina's rage mid-sentence. Hopefully there was a support group within that prison that helped him process. Veep deliberately feints, more than once, toward real, textual tragedySelina's horrible, accidental execution of her ex-husband, Andrew ( David Pasquesi ), or Amy's suspicion that . In your mind, was that one of the last times they spoke?My assumption is, because Selina is Selina, Im sure she occasionally tried via Little Richard, or they bumped into each other. I do think Gary is a much better version of himself during that funeral, definitely. [spoiler] What happened on Labor Day? But it feels pretty definitive. And was there ever talk of making him Selinas VP in the present day, as his political career was accelerating super fast in the final season?Its funny, Ive seen both the Richard becomes her VP or somebodys VP at the convention. And so Gary wouldnt really listen to what shes actually saying. Welcome to the Quantum Realm. And then picked up right where we were [laughs], right back to that sort of withering stare. We had this really nice moment after the screening, just kind of catching up and a little bit of chit-chatting. No votes? What conversations, if any, did you have with him about the ending and wrapping up the show?We saw each other at the premiere in New York. For this scene they just bring up the day in which something happened. We trade him for the sadly now deceased Peter Quinn. So, I guess because of his simplicity, dare I say, I dont blame him quite as much as I blame her. Keith Quinn has become her hatchet man but she doesnt have the relationship with him that she had with Ben [Kevin Dunn]. Its sort of the way I treat my in-laws, which is, I never say their name, because my instinct is to call them Mr. And Im certainly not gonna call them by their first name, so I just avoid calling them.. In the primaries, Jonahs run mirrors Selinas initial run: he starts out popular, but ends up losing to DANNY CHUNG. It was so satisfying on so many levels. "There is a part of Selina that recognizes that Gary is maybe the only one who's ever really loved her, and she's giving that up," says Louis-Dreyfus. American adaptation of The Thick of It and a Spiritual Successor to the American . And I do think in some ways getting away from her mother was the best thing that ever happened to her. I dont have the secret answer of what Labor Day was, I just liked the idea of a lot of clues that kept changing what you thought about it. Kent (Gary Cole) is a full-on hippie-raising alpaca but wants to focus on his watchmaking! And so in becoming president, Montez would have held on to her, and that there would have been a moment or two when we went back to the Montez White House, or even maybe trying to call Montez and Sue would have answered the phone, some version of that. At what price victory? Thats whats so great about our show we have a lot of rehearsal time. TVLINE | How does this impact their relationship moving forward? Gary is constantly getting beat up, so anytime theres an opportunity for a blowup where he can actually express himself, Im in. Shell never allow herself to sit in those feelings, but she does feel them and then stuffs them down and turns it back on. "It means to lose something. Gary disposed of a body for her. Selina wasnt a robot. "I thought it was really interesting that everybody is in old-age makeup, everybody's looking rough, we're all really old, and the only one that is not in old-age makeup is Selina," says Hale. But maybe theres a lesson to be learned which is, at the end of the day, horrible is horrible. Michael Ausiello / A cautionary tale for 2020, this season was simply darker and more brutal than ever. Its sort of fun, Mandel says. A few suggested either watching an interview online in which Anna says it herself (see above), or simply just calling her Anna to be safe. He has no personal identity, so Selina becoming president is like getting the key and him becoming president. Yes, he enjoyed seeing people turn real Trump team gaffes into Veep closing-credits sequences like the executive order one above or Sean Spicers infamous Hitler remarks below. He always wanted to match her. In the heat of the moment, there probably was a realization in her mind that hes more than just a lap dog. As Sydney wrote, Mother. By a landslide. What Selina did was the biggest gift to Gary, because thats the only thing that would have broken the cycle for him, Hale now tells The Hollywood Reporter. She just sent him to jail and knowing Selina, she's not going to get him out. And when you sow that your entire life, you reap sadness and isolation. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the . And it was very funny, too, because there was no next clip. April 28, 2017, 12:21 PM. He would rather be attacked and cussed at and abused than be distanced from her. In some interesting, weird way, Im almost curious as to what he wouldve done had she actually asked him. His favorite experience was when the American Film Institute showed clips from the 10 series it was honoring and, alphabetically, Veep came last. Some part of me almost wondered that had she asked him, he actually might have been willing to do it. During her desperate, obsessive drive to return to the White House, Selina (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) betrayed her daughter, Catherine (Sarah Sutherland), the fight for LGBTQ equality, a brave war veteran who was supposed to be her running mate, the nation of Tibet, pristine federal lands, the American educational system, and perhaps most damning to viewers entranced by the relationship at the cold-blooded heart of the show: her over-loyal bagman and one-man hype machine Gary (Tony Hale). Im just not sure either of them has the ability to get to that step. I kind of love that. While the titular role in Selena: The Series will be taken on by . A tinge. He just keeps bouncing back to this dysfunction. Though she was fatally shot by the president of her fan club in 1995, the 23-year-old was able to accomplish some huge feats - from being credited with catapulting Latin music into the . We even had a [scene], it just didnt quite exactly work, where she was watching the funeral, sort of laughing. TVLINE | Were you told what happened on Labor Day to help with the subtext? Gary has been abused, codependent and is just stuck in this obsessive cycle with Selina. She doesn't have empathy for others. It was lovely that he came to New York for the premiere, and obviously, hes busy with [upcoming HBO space comedy Avenue 5]. I doubt we ever find out. I dont think she particularly wants to help the world. Im just now thinking about this, but I think during those 20 years, there was probably a good five years in the beginning that he thought she was going to change her mind and wake up and realize how special he was to her. The more the phone rings, the more there are things to do, shes fine. 2023 TVLine Media, LLC. Ive said this before, but its like a dog returning to his vomit. We talked a lot about a more standard ending, if you will, where Selina is right about to become president and then she was going to do some of the same things offer Jonah the Vice Presidency. Before the moment turned into something more shattering, though, she was jolted out of her daze when the Israeli prime minister calls, and she quickly reverted to charm mode. So we were actually in the sound mix of the episode when we were told this. Garys got a lot of secrets. At some point or another, I think I whispered that she won. But at the end of the day, she is the winner. Even though I think Selina is a little bit anti-Semitic, shes not nearly as anti-Semitic as the entire Trump administration, so its hard to compete.. "You'd hate the flowers but I I brought the Dubonnet," he says to her flag-draped coffin, a cocktail of emotions flooding his weary voice. 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