Sets the standard for ergonomic comfort and performance. The bullet mushroomed to about one and a half times its original size, stopped at right around 12" into the bare gelatin and left an impressive permanent cavity behind it. Its best single group was 2.05" with an average of 2.18". I felt I was able to get quick follow-up shots from a standing or benched position. I do have an M1a1 (M14) but I changed the muzzle suppressor with one that have a bayonet lug bought from Brownell's. Fast forward a bit past a lot of bureaucracy and a point where the US almost adopted the FN FAL, and finally we have NATOs adoption of the 7.62x51mm cartridge as its official battle rifle round and with it, the US adopted the M14 in the late 50s. Good shooters will no doubt stretch that a lot, with high BC bullets, but big game is way different than steel gongs. Considering the size of the red dot at 100 yards, I was more than happy with that. I shoot 2- 16" AR's for competition, and they work fine to 600. Itd be easy to pretend like the entire gaff just never happened, but thats super disingenuous, and we try to be as real with yall as possible. Again, were not so arrogant as to think that this isnt our fault but if so, why / how were we putting 2 rounds through the same hole only to completely fuck up the next round by several inches? The next time I got the opportunity to see what a great rifle the M1A/M14 is, I was attending the Army National Match Gunsmithing Course at Rock Is- land Arsenal. the riffle is tricky and you need to know how it shoot. This would give me a 1.5 MOA result Internal pockets hold ammo, cleaning gear, log books, and more ammo. Like you guys, excellent customer service, and once back in my hands, no problems (the bolt roller cam pin or something or other had broken after ~200-400 rounds), and I was able to get my full confidence back with the weapon, with ~3/4" M.O.A. The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB starts with a 16.25-inch, carbon-steel barrel with six-groove, 1-in-11-inch-twist rifling and a Parkerized finish. So eye sight picture is challenging. Ive been using this spotting scope for some time, and it really helps locate those small holes at extended ranges. M1A SOCOM 16 Options Best Red Dot for M1A. Its long and respected battlefield heritage has been preserved and enhanced for the needs of today's military and law enforcement personnel. Even the lightest .458 SOCOM round is more than three times heavier than the M855 round. The fit and finish are great. I felt I was able to get quick follow-up shots from a standing or benched position. I run custom load serria match kings but xm118lr would have ran beautifully I used them in mine before I had my custom loads going for it much more stable in the heat than the 168g. .308 WIN Unfortunately, we still werent getting great results, and the forward-mounted Picatinny rail on the SOC16 means that youre essentially relegated to scout scopes with good eye relief. As far as quick target acquisition, it doesnt get much faster. The idea behind the M1A SOCOM 16 was to provide 7.6251 capabilities in a smaller, shorter and lighter package than the full-size M1A. This is not a AR 10 ( I own a Sig 716 Patrol 1st Gen), I wonder if the difference was that you were using .308 instead of the 7.62 NATO round that the rifle was made to use.I wouldn't use .223 in my AR 15 that is chambered to use 5.56 just because, We thought that as well, but the M1A barrels themselves have ".308" stamped into them . Definitely was you. I was sick of that heavy thing. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. WebThe SOCOM 16 put three shots into about two inches, with the other two shots opening the group up to about ten inches using the Hornady Steel Match ammo. Sure, people can hit targets further than this, but its uncommon, to say the least. Combined with the gentler shooting characteristics of the systems gas operation, the muzzle brake creates one of the softest-shooting rifles Ive shot in some time. First, she likes to eat only certain kinds of ammo. The SOCOM 16 is most certainly an effective weapon, but its also a fun weapon. My GI M1a has done 2 inches off the bags even with cheap steel case at 100 yards. The M14 socom has a shorter barrel than the standard M14 and thus has a shorter effective range of about 500 yards. WebThe SOCOM 16 weighs 8.8 lbs, unloaded. It is the buyers responsibility to comply with all rules, restrictions and/or laws determined by your city or state. Muzzle brake on SOCOM 16 CQB is very effective, and shorter barrel makes for some serious muzzle blast. Fully loaded with a 20 round mag, it weighs over 10 lbs. Wash hands thoroughly after exposure. Ammo can make a huge difference in these rifles depending on the age and wear of the barrel. They said it now shoots 3 MOA at 100 yards using my scope which was attached at the time of repair, which is their spec for the SOCOM. In our opinion the .458 SOCOM has several design and performance advantages over the.450 Bushmaster and the .500 Beowulf including improved functional reliability and the use of a standard AR magazine. I bought a brand new, unused first run RRA .458 SOCOM upper for $600. The .458 SOCOM treads hard on its heels, but with a flatter (albeit still arcing) trajectory. The muzzle brake does increase the muzzle blast, especially with the shorter barrel, so any shooters standing next to the rifle when it goes off will definitely know it. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U11URice_cM. Muzzle velocity for this test was a zippy 2969 fps., or 104 percent of list velocity. I'm 72 years old and can't even get corrected to more that 25/20. Admittedly, we are not marksmen, and while we all have a good amount of long-range shooting experience, our inability to hit relatively close targets with these guns seemed pretty damn wild. The barrel also comes from the Springfield factory with a muzzle brake that controls muzzle rise effectively by sending most of the gas and blast upwards. And I have found shooting 150 and 180 grain that they send spoilers down range. WebThe Sportsman's Shop 7.47K subscribers In this video we take a close look into the Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 16 Rifle! Hornady A-Max flew from the muzzle at 2598 fps. I know what works for me and has my whole life. THEN YOU ARE A SUCKASS SHOOTER!! It turned in a best group of 1.91" with an average of 2.11". Truthfully, we have no idea, and we actually deliberated for a while on what approach we wanted to take with this review because at the end of the day, its still sort of inconclusive. Is it really us? When I go to any range and get out one of these or my Garand Tanker, people stop and walk over. In short, I think the M14 is one of the most iconic battle rifles ever. The reason that the safety on the M1 and M14 is located on the trigger guard is so when the soldier or Marine using the weapon reaches to place his finger on the trigger he will feel that the safety is still engaged. Further, I learned to shoot the weapon not whine about it. I'll take the M14, thanks. Here's a closer look at the Springfield SOCOM 16 CQB M1A model designed specifically for up-close and personal situations. Outside of that, rifle to rifle, is the old grip inferior? This review saved me from being hugely disappointed. It works well for me. For safety: before handling a firearm read, understand and follow instructions in the manual provided with firearm. Apparently inferior to the Garand in every metric, accuracy, recoil, reliability and then they shuttered the original armory. Youve got to rock them into the receiver sort of like an AK, but because the guns ship with short 10 rounders, youve really got to drive the front notch of the mag deep into the mag well, rock the rear of the mag back towards the trigger, and simultaneously push up to get the magazine seated correctly. Springfield then mounted optics to the rifles using a 4th Gen Steel Receiver mount and tested them thusly. WebThe Springfield Armory M1A is a semi-automatic rifle made by Springfield Armory, Inc., beginning in 1971, based on the M14 rifle, for the civilian and law enforcement markets in the United States. which was 98.6 percent of list velocity. I looked at buying a M1A. "M1A" is a proprietary name for Springfield Armory's M14-pattern rifle. Loaded with features from top to bottom, the XD-S Mod.2 is a slim single stack pistol perfect for concealed carry. A good Tam sling worked well in this aspect. Certainly seems to be the case - though some folks still swear they're getting crazy good groupings with the M1A. Other days you hold the rifle wrong and the recoil will throw it out of position. Back in January, I did something I have wanted to do for a long time. Admittedly, my first experiences shooting it were not great. When the package arrived, I was pleasantly surprised to see Springfield had sent me the rifle with two stocks. It also has some unique features. Rifle has a Burris 2x pistol scope . This is why any serious shooter of M1A match competitions will check EVERY ROUND for concentricity variations. I also picked up a nearly new, shot 50 times Predator Pursuit for $900 off of Gunbroker, nice varmint/deer package. Front sight has a tritium insert in a .135-inch wide blade. Even the lightest .458 SOCOM round is more than three times heavier than the M855 round. Bummer about your results with the M1A and M1A SOCOM. SOCOM 16 CQB has MOA adjustments for windage and elevation, along with over- sized rear-sight aperture. .308 WIN MSRP $2,087 - $2,540 M1A Scout Squad Rifles Combining the legendary power and accuracy of the M1A with the quick handling and fast sight acquisition of a scout style rifle. Thank you, This compact sight provides 10 illumination levels, fully multi-coated optics, a water resistant single-piece chassis and ships with a protective rubber cover. In my opinion, if you want accuracy, stick with a bolt action rifle like a Remington 700 with a ported barrel. And check out the Best .308 Ammo, Best AR-10s, and Best 7.6251 Battle Rifles. USMC 1967 -- M14 final qualification day -- good grouping from offhand, kneeling, and sitting -- excellent grouping, from prone @ 500 yards with iron sights -- M14 was a very reliable weapon (not on automatic, of course) -- resisted mud and dust well -- however, recoil was not favorably received if wearing tank top (! The iron sights consist of a winged XS Sight Systems .125" blade with a Trijicon tritium insert in front and a fully adjustable .135" ghost-ring aperture in back. You have the power of the 7.62 NATO in a carbine-sized package. It will amplify any inconsistency. Their approach was bias. Like I said, I am no expert marksman by any means so I am not sure what happened. I shot my first M14 in the crotch, now I have a JRA M14 Rockola which shoots lights out with irons! I dont always agree with everything they say, but I do believe that they are telling you what they actually think. One can argue about value of a safety that is separate from the selector switch, one can leave a weapon on full automatic without having to fumble through, you can get your weapon on safety without having to push through two selections. WebThe SOCOM 16 put three shots into about two inches, with the other two shots opening the group up to about ten inches using the Hornady Steel Match ammo. Old and heavy? If there is ANY concentricity variance in the round you will have a flier on your hands. Well just say this: The M14 and M1A have incredibly vocal supporters and detractors both and if you have the misfortune of wading into Mekong Delta of that online shit-flinging fest, its probably going to be quite hard to discern how these guns actually perform in real life. Nothing that involved extensive gunsmithing or modifications. All rights reserved. The National Match M1A is, according to Springfield, hand-built to win competitions. The answer is most likely in the middle - there are both poor and fantastic performing M1As in circulation for various reasons - perhaps quality control. It was par for the course during the 40s, but is it fair to judge an antiquated set up by modern standards? Recoil is minimal for the 7.62 NATO and, honestly, I really cant tell the difference between shooting this and my full-size M1A Loaded. Nothing to do with what wounds are caused at that range, the assumption is if As you can see the shot placement was all over the place. We will say that Springfields responsiveness in helping us sort out what was going on was fantastic, and worth letting all of you know about. You could fully load an M-4 style rifle with 30 rounds, optic, sling, and laser and be close to that same weight. I found the CQB very enjoyable to shoot from the bench, standing or walking in the woods. This rifle really brings back memories. ), but tank tops were not standard issue in RVN. What made this one stand out was that you could tell that they didnt want to make a negative review of such an iconic gun. I later purchased a relatively inexpensive scout long eye relief scope from UTG. I bought a new rear sight cover from Franklin and assembled and the thing shoots like a monster now. I believe you approached the test with bias against the rifle and then set about to prove the bias. Otherwise, I don't agree with much else here written. That's part of what makes these rifles so special. Two metallic quick release (QD) flush cup sling swivel ports are located on the right and left sides near the muzzle with two more just above the AR-type removable pistol grip. Featuring a superbly refined trigger, the XD-M Elite represents the pinnacle of performance in modern striker-fired pistols. range ammo. The scope shooting helped to prove this, and that the National Match can shoot very well indeed. Fully loaded with a 20 round mag, it weighs over 10 lbs. Sierra has their 175gr. (Beware of the scammers on Craig's List!) Also had a 1911 from them where the front sight fell right off as I was shooting and the finish so thin it rusted in my leather holster. Inspired by the original G.I. I have zero issues with the ergonomics of the M1A. Matchking bullet for the M1 Garand & M1-A but not all rifles shoot them well. Ready to fire? Standard Pistol Calibers. Not challenging your experience with and observations of the rifle. Then the AR-10 platform got going at flank speed, and those accurized M-14's (as far as know) went back into storage. Also, as the immediate need for longer-range S.D.M. However, with brand new rifles it is hard to determine which is at fault and presuming SPGFLD was not "shining" you, I would highly recommend that you acquire some of the MK118 LR ammunition and give it another try.. Also I would definitely clean the barrels with a copper dissolving solvent (your choice). I ran the SOCOM 16 CQB through its paces with a variety of ammunition, including 155-grain Hornady Steel Match, Black Hills 168-grain, and 175-grain ABM tactical ammunition. No, a sniper does not need a precision rifle. Just sayin'. Just wanted some feedback from people that Im not saying you dont know how to shoot, I am saying ARs are the most forgiving platform, having been designed by an aero space engineer and all, they have great ergonomics and manage more recoil themselves than any other system to date. The course of fire was very well set up and ranges were fairly short, around 175 yards, since this course was primarily for law enforcement. I think it balances a bit better, and I liked the sights on the Scout much better than the Socom. Which was enough for me, Im not gonna buy a rifle at that price that has a 1:5 good:bad honest review ratio. Aimpoint T2 Micro; Trijicon RMR; wars in Iraq and Afghanistan opened a need for a military rifle that could engage targets at ranges far outside the M-16/M-4s maximum effective range. Leupold VX-III 2.5x8x36mm scope is a great choice for shooting rifle at extended ranges. Shoulder straps and a plethora of handles make this a versatile drag bag capable of carrying factory-length rifles, shotguns or a combination of rifles, shotguns and handguns with ease. That seems like very poor quality control with no recalls, even though many people are having similar problems. Popular 9mm Ammo. The ABM came in a little tighter, producing five-shot groups of about 212 inches at 100 yards. Meaning no two are alike. I prefer to challenge myself using iron sights.. As it is aptly stated: Necessity is the mother of invention. The M1A SOCOM 16 takes the classic M1A to a whole new level. For all of the weird issues we had with the M1As, reliability in terms of operation wasnt one of them. The third option is to use the 4" long Picatinny compatible rail located in front of the action to mount a scout scope with extended eye relief. Premier components for quick-handling, improved accuracy, and performance comparable to custom AR builds costing much more. I have a standard m1a and love it. Inconsistent cheek weld and sight picture is the usual problem with the kind of shot groups you were showing. Point is you own one of these rifles because you want to. Because there are so many general purpose and specialized target shooting loads to choose from, it's a good idea to look for those cartridges with performance qualities suited to close-quarters conditions. Leupold QR rings make mounting LER scope a snap. Try adjusting your selection. I can run my M1A just as well as any AR pattern rifle. It ain't the best rifle, but it sure isn't outdated or the worst. If u started young , 5 or 6yrs old(22lr) it's easy to remember ergonomics. Once the rifle starts the build process, unless you are really lucky, and/or really, really know what you are doing, that rifle's parts are staying with that weapon, period. Aimpoint T2 Micro; Trijicon RMR; wars in Iraq and Afghanistan opened a need for a military rifle that could engage targets at ranges far outside the M-16/M-4s maximum effective range. on the GI length barrel, can be used as a crude, but effective range finder. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. Lot less recoil, easier to maintain, and a lot cheaper. The guy I bought it from simply said he "couldn't get with it" and he was going back to his schmidt-rubin to shoot steel. Our Custom 1911 pistolsmiths have over 200 combined years of experience and individually hand fit every major component of your firearm. Mine really seems to like 147 grain PMC xtac. Next, I had to adjust my shooting style. They are about equal as far as accuracy. But military surplus ammo and you will have better luck or at lest I did. Why, with an ensuing internet argument, of course! The Scout, on the other hand, has an even shorter barrel and an effective range of only 300 yards. I'm not really into shilling for Springfield, recent research into the AR platform had me seriously eyeing their Saint Edge, but after reading about some of the local politics Springfield Armory has engaged in, I believe I'll spend my money with a company that cares about the 2nd Amendment for ALL Americans. The National Match came in at 1.25 MOA with a Vortex 4-16x optic, and the SOC16 shot 2MOA with a Vortex 1-6 both at 100 yards. Straight up no BS. From the factory, they're way too tight. .308 WIN MSRP $2,087 - $2,540 M1A Scout Squad Rifles Combining the legendary power and accuracy of the M1A with the quick handling and fast sight acquisition of a scout style rifle. Accuracy results are the average of four, five-shot groups, over a Sinclair shooting rest, at 50 yards. They even included the optics and mounts to ensure wed be able to repeat their results. It also has some unique features. Like anything else in life just takes training. I also love the fact that the M1A is much less finicky with maintenance. Even if someone is a decent shot, it takes time to adapt to a different weapon both individually and model wise. I have the Scout Squad, which is a hybrid of the socom and standard. Finger off the trigger but posted on the trigger guard. .308 WIN MSRP $1,942 - $2,087 Its not the end of the world, and it does get easier over time as the mags get broken in. I'm a little surprised with Springfield's quality control that such a defect made it through the process on a $2,000 gun. Following the sale of Remington Outdoor Company's assets in September 2020, Vista Outdoor purchased Remington Ammunition. The 1911 Ronin combines a legacy of service with the features modern shooters demand. If the experience with the M1As is really in your head. But Springfield did respond to your inquiries. My friend pulling targets down in the pits said the Marine Sargent supervising and making sure no one's head became a desirable target asked if I was using a scope because my groups were so close. The gun also has a scout style picatinny mount just forward of the action, allowing for the addition of red dots or scout scopes if thats your jam. 460 meters/500 yards here. 's that were issued these rifles had to do some pretty serious range time to get familiar with the platform (coming from using the M-16/M-4's from Basic onward). The Emissary bridges the best features of defensive and custom pistols. Strictly Necessary Cookie should be enabled at all times so that we can save your preferences for cookie settings. There is so much more you can do at a total cost of about another $ 500.00 to get a better rifle or you can just keep what you have and go for it. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. Back in the 1970-80s, I shot on a military rifle team that was issued NM M14s. Social media guy and gucci gear nerd extraordinaire, he enjoys tracking the equipment trends of various SOF forces worldwide and collecting a wholly unnecessary amount of Multicam Black kit. Caldwell Lead Sled at 100 Yards! This rifle does not like resting "hard-on-hard". What is the effective range of a Socom 16? From my understanding, the 'lucky' S.D.M. 460 meters/500 yards here. Also, as designed by the military the gas system was only designed to handle 147 grain projectile with fast burning powders.. Look at slow motion videos of an AK-47 vs an AR-15. Winchester's PDX1 Defender 120-gr. ( It even voids the factory warranty). After a few mags, we decided to setup a shooting mat and rest to take some prone shots with an optic mounted to the SOC16s scout mount to see if the irons themselves were just inexplicably way off. anything extra and your It never failed me, shot 1/2 M.O.A. All rights reserved. The gun liked a lot of sling pressure and shot better in prone than off the bench. Right side of Springfield Armory SOCOM 16 CQB wearing Flat Dark Earth stock. Once you grown used to 5.56 caliber rifles, you forget how much fun a full-powered rifle with a battle rifle or larger caliber can be. Maybe that makes a difference. Click the Go To Forum Thread link below to jump in! Steve Sieberts has over 40 years in the firearms field. The boys on the range who all use huge scopes on bolt guns could not believe my consistencywith an old not match chrome lined barreled M1A. We really hope we dont accidentally end up summoning the M14 defense squad by even suggesting that these guns are not the absurdly accurate sniper platforms it feels like a segment of pop culture has made them out to be, and for the umpteenth time were readily willing to accept that the problem may very well have been us. Again we totally accept that we are by no means amazing shooters, but this shouldnt be that hard. It also features the Springfield Armory forward scout-style picatinny mount, an enlarged ghost ring aperture rear sight, and XS Sights tritium insert in the front sight to give you lightning fast target acquisition capability. In my opinion the M-14 was a great battle rifle. I am really excited to see what I can do with this with some of the options and accessories out there. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, Springfield M1A Review: SOCOM 16 & National Match. If you shoot nothing but pistol grips, you might find the old stock hard to handle. Having a little space between the stock and my cheek didnt seem to affect accuracy, but if I were entering a Heavy Metal category of a 3-Gun match, for example, it would definitely slow me down. Enjoy your review it was very accurate good job. This is what it comes down to with a m1a, shooter, then rounds, then trigger, then making sure all mounts are secure if if scoped. Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. Did the guns get banged up in shipping? He has always had a love of the outdoors and shooting and has been shooting for 40+ years. If I had changed my sight picture to shoot bottom of circle instead of center, I believe I could have shot a group with height no larger that the width. That being said, the M1A is still a blast if you want a big, chunky battle rifle with ties back to the iconic M14 though wed certainly still recommend finding a way to try one out before you buy it just to make sure you know what exactly youre getting yourself into. On first glance, the SOCOM 16 CQBs most noticeable feature is its 16-inch barrel. .308 WIN MSRP $2,087 - $2,540 M1A Scout Squad Rifles Combining the legendary power and accuracy of the M1A with the quick handling and fast sight acquisition of a scout style rifle. The rear sight is an enlarged military aperture sight, with a .135-inch opening that makes target acquisition fast for open-sight matches, where speed is a requirement. The feel is amazing. From additional reading and talking to folks, the M-14 works quite well when wet (like emerging from the sea, weapons at the ready). Worse, if you hang your head way back on the stock instead of behind the sight directly when shooting on the bench at paper, don't be surprised when you aren't getting the best from the best iron sight system ever developed. Again, obviously much better than the results that we were getting in the two different times we shot the guns previously. Don't care. The M1As safety is located within the trigger guard itself, and is essentially a metal tab that you press forward to disengage. I'll say, nerd or not. The 7.62 does the job ! The match-grade tuned two-stage trigger breaks like glass at between 5 and 6 lbs. My best target was shot at a Regional match which shot the 600 yard target first. The TRP is based off the custom Professional Model HRT 1911 developed by Springfield Armory for the FBI. 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